Nobody knows the day when this all starts, but the events after the first rapture will be timed exactly. However, most people in the world will be fooled into thinking WW3 was the “tribulation” and then that the “world peace” that follows is permanent – but it certainly won’t be.
Toward the very end of the great tribulation, the timing of days won’t change, but the earth’s rotation will speed up dramatically shortening the days from 24 hours to only 16 hours, reducing the scorching sunlight so that all the people don’t get killed by the heat.
Revelation 12:14 says that “the woman” – presumably Israel – flees into the wilderness for 1,260 days. Jesus mentioned in Matthew 24:20 that that flight by the Jews is in response to the abomination of desolation, so their stay in the wilderness is 30 days shorter than the total 1,290 days from the abomination of desolation to the end. The haste indicated by Matthew 24:20 suggest that there is no delay at the beginning, so the 30 days short must be at the very end. In other words, the rapture of elect/wise-virgins/tribultation-saints (Rev 14:14-16) happens (on the 1260th day) 30 days before Christ’s return and the battle of Armageddon (on the 1290th day)(Rev 14:17-20).
Let me add some additional speculation:
So the final 3.5 year great tribulation over all the earth is a subset of a 7 year period for dealing with Israel, and that is a subset of the 10 year tribulation over all the earth starting with World War 3. But those 10 years may be subset of a 14 year period, as there were 14 years prophesied by Joseph concerning Egypt when he interpreted Pharaoh’s dreams (Genesis 41). Joseph predicted 7 years of plenty followed by 7 years of dearth. The final dearth of 7 years would start with “world peace” because that is when the beast-mark computer financial system is implemented and cash is outlawed – thrusting billions into poverty. The 7 years before that of plenty would include 3 years for World War 3 – when trillions are spent and billions are employed in the War Effort, and also 4 years before that, to total 7 years of plenty.
If that is true, the timing of the first rapture of the church is more uncertain. Would it happen at the start of the time of plenty? Would it happen in the middle? Would it happen before WW3? Or during WW3?
It might be that Trump’s presidency has already started the final 7 years of plenty – perhaps already confirmed by record-breaking stock market levels, low unemployment, and all the greedy enthusiasm in the air. 2016 + 14 years = 2030. It seems right that the Lord Jesus would return 2030 since that would (probably) be exactly 2,000 years after his earthly ministry.
With a period of great material abundance all the world’s sinners will grow that much worse, they will be more jaded and hardened in sin, and even as the the timeline of judgment becomes obvious they will refuse to repent.
In January 2017 Trump’s presidency started, and on December 6, 2017 he announced recognition of Jerusalem and to move the embassy there, putting the USA on a collision course with the United Nations, setting up World War 3 against Russia, Iran, China, and North Korea starting sometime in 2020. Hopefully the rapture, if this example is the scenario, would happen long before 2020, hopefully in 2017!
This part is admitted speculation, it’s an example of giving dates, not to predict those dates, but only to demonstrate how the theoretical end-time timeline could transpire.
I previously gave a very good tactic to use when the Jehovah Witnesses come to your door, but here’s another one to use when you see them sitting out in public pamphleteering:
Bible Believer: **Pointing to signboard** What does the Bible Really Teach?!?
Jehovah Witness: Yes, ‘What does the Bible really teach.’
BB: Do you know what is wrong with that question?
JW: **caught off guard** Ahhh … well … this is a very important question.
BB: I asked, do you know what is wrong with the question. Do you?
JW: **brow begins to furrow in thought** Well, no, it is a good question.
BB: No there is something wrong with the question. Do you know what it is?
— Keep this up for a little bit, not to be obnoxious, but just long enough that they are fored to say “No, I don’t know” or “Please tell me” or otherwise make it clear that they’ve given up trying to solve the riddle.
JW: Okay, what do you think is wrong with the question?
BB: It asks what the Bible “TEACHES” not what the Bible “SAYS”.
JW: That’s the same thing, “What does the Bible really teach?”
BB: No, it’s not the same. Many religions claim to “teach” the Bible, but how do I know which one is right?
JW: Look here at this pamphlet … **taking out a pamphlet from the rack** … it says here, “What does the Bible really teach?” and …
BB: I don’t want to look at that. That’s a pamphlet put out by a New York Corporation called the “Watchower Bible and Tract Society Incorporated” – it’s not a King James Bible.
JW: Well, it has many Bible verses in it.
BB: It’s religious “teachings” about the scriptures but it’s not Bible – the Catholics, the Mormons, the Moslems, the cults – they all have the same sorts of pamphlets:with their “teachings” – all claim to be right.
So what is the important question, **holding out the left hand** … “What does the Bible really teach?” or **holding out the right hand** … “What does the Bible SAY?”
JW: Well, Jesus also taught the people – teaching isn’t bad, this is teaching too.
BB: Jesus commanded, “Search the scriptures” [Jn 5:39] and said, “Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures” [Mt 22:29], and St Paul asked, “what saith the scripture?” [Rm 4:3] — but as for the religious teachers Jesus said they were “teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.”
JW: Hmm, well, yes he said that.
BB: St Peter said, “shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies” [2 Pt 2:1] and Paul warned that in the last days, “shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears And they shall turn away their ears from the truth” [2 Tim 4:3-4]. So you see, the important thing is not what some religious outfit claims the Bible “teaches“ – but rather, what does the Bible “say” – that’s what’s important.
JW: **awkward silence**
JW #2: **interrupting** Hey then, why don’t you give some example of what you’re talking about?
BB: **getting ready to leave** Okay I will. Jesus said, “Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth … But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven” [Mt 6:19-20] … but your religion teaches against heaven and wants to spend eternity on planet earth! Something to think about!!
Now leave immediately without saying anything else, or engaging in any useless arguing about their nutty doctrines. You’ve planted a seed – now go with that being the last thing they heard you say.
If they aren’t completely reprobate then the truth of what they heard will keep ringing in their ears under the conviction of the Holy Ghost.
” For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.” 2 Timothy 1:7
NO FEAR: ” When thou goest out to battle against thine enemies, and seest horses, and chariots, and a people more than thou, be not afraid of them: for the LORD thy God is with thee, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.” Deuteronomy 20:1 ” Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the LORD thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest.” Joshua 1:9 ” And who is he that will harm you, if ye be followers of that which is good? But and if ye suffer for righteousness’ sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled;” 1 Peter 3:13-14 ” And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.” Luke 12:4-5 ” The fear of man bringeth a snare: but whoso putteth his trust in the LORD shall be safe.” Proverbs 29:25 ” Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom.” Luke 12:32 ” If then God so clothe the grass, which is to day in the field, and to morrow is cast into the oven; how much more will he clothe you, O ye of little faith? And seek not ye what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink, neither be ye of doubtful mind.” Luke 12:28-29
POWER: ” For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.” 1 John 5:4 ” I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.” Philippians 4:13 ” Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” Ephesians 6:10-12 ” And in nothing terrified by your adversaries: which is to them an evident token of perdition, but to you of salvation, and that of God.” Philippians 1:28
LOVE:” Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.” 1 John 5:1-2 ” By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.” John 13:35 ” Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:” 1 Peter 1:22 ” But whoso hath this world’s good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him? My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.” 1 John 3:17-18 ” Ye that love the LORD, hate evil: he preserveth the souls of his saints; he delivereth them out of the hand of the wicked. Light is sown for the righteous, and gladness for the upright in heart.” Psalms 97:10-11
SOUND MIND: ” Then they went out to see what was done; and came to Jesus, and found the man, out of whom the devils were departed, sitting at the feet of Jesus, clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid.” Luke 8:35 ” But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.” 1 Corinthians 2:14-16 ” My words shall be of the uprightness of my heart: and my lips shall utter knowledge clearly.” Job 33:3 ” Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,” Luke 24:45 ” Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man’s voice forbad the madness of the prophet.” 2 Peter 2:15-16 ” Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.” Ephesians 5:17
But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.
Excellent means of great virtue, of great worth, of great dignity; eminent in any good quality. The way of charity is much better than the seeming importance of possessing spiritual gifts.
1 Corinthians, Chapter 13
1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
We should excel in proper attitude, not in fancy talk and spiritual showiness.
2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
We gauge status on ability to know and do great things, but from the eternal perspective, this is incorrect.
3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
Giving away and martyrdom – by themselves – are acts of self-abasement only. They don’t necessarily entail the right attitude toward others.
4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind;
Willing to endure discomfort to treat others with benevolence and care.
Charity is essentially the 2nd great commandment that Jesus spoke of: ” Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.” Matthew 22:37-40
Believing this rule, “Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself,” is charity.
I am not more important than others. Others are not less important than me. That others might benefit I can suffer awhile, I can wait my turn.
…charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, 5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own,
Unseemly means indecent, unbecoming, obnoxious. I don’t need to penalize others with a scene of unpleasantness to announce my own importance.
… is not easily provoked,
It says “easily” and “long” suffering, which is to say, within reasonable bounds. Charity has done its job if we endure a reasonable amount of time and wait until we are greatly provoked. Since we often make mistakes and then turn and repent when we realize we were wrong, it is reasonable that we extend to others the same patience. But it’s charitable to rebuke and oppose evil rather than let it fester on our neighbour or spread to others. There is a reasonable limit to long-suffering: silent martyrdom isn’t charity.
… thinketh no evil; 6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
The first great commandment can never be compromised in service to the second one. “Thou shalt love the Lord thy God” means truth and righteousness is much more important than charity.
True charity never entails evil and never extends beyond the bounds of truth and righteousness.
7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
That is, all things that are good, wholesome, right, true, etc.
8 Charity never faileth:
It is an enduring principle that will last forever.
but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
This is not “knowledge” in the sense of knowing God and Bible. It is talking about the gift of having a “word of knowledge” – mentioned in 1 Cor 12:8 – which is supernatural insight into a particular situation. This gift’s importance passes away because once that situation is past, the gift of knowledge about it is no longer relevant. So with the other showy gifts that only had importance in confirming to the Corinthians and other churches the supernatural verity of the apostles and their gospel (i.e., the New Testament).
9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. 11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
Charismatic gifts had their place, but mature faith doesn’t require constant magic tricks. Supernatural proofs have already established that the word of God is true, and now we move forward in faith.
12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. 13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
It is greater since faith and hope will one day see their fulfilment, but charity’s fulfilment goes on forever. But it will go on forever in the secondary place of submission to God’s righteousness.
1 Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.
Charity is our heart’s attitude to love our neighbour as our selves – but doing this isn’t the primary function of the Church in this age. We must preach the word and announce the gospel of salvation by Jesus Christ (2 Tim. 4:2; Mark 16:15).
The saying, “preach Christ, and use words only if necessary” is a diabolical lie. Paul says, “rather that ye may prophesy” because people need to know the exact truth. Jesus Christ is the truth and the word of God, “And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” John 8:32 (John 1:1, Revelation 19:11). Just being a “nice person” without proclaiming the words of God, and exclusivity of salvation in Jesus Christ alone, is not real Christianity.
Some great evils are promulgated by people who misuse this “Charity” chapter: #1 that the emphasis is put on loving our neighbour while ignoring the greater duty to obey God; #2 that feelings and emotions become our standards, rather than the word of God; #3 pretending that the chapter and its promises apply to non-Christians; #4 that charity is a means of salvation instead of being a manner of Christian living.
How do we have more charity and put this chapter into practice? Is it within ourselves to have this sort of attitude? No one is perfect, but by God’s help, yes, this chapter is about deciding to have the right attitude – and that is something we can always strive to do.
” Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.” Philippians 2:12-13
The Holy Spirit within us reminds our “will” and coaxes us to desire to do the right thing, but we must chose accordingly, adopting this attitude ourselves, and must not resist his draw. And when we decide to make our “will” obey that call, then he also helps us within, and without, to do accordingly. So God is with us to think properly and to do properly, according to his will. We can love others as we love ourselves, while always putting God in first place.
One day far in the future, basking with all the saints in eternal glory, I will not look back on my present lack of grand spiritual gifts with any regret, but of my present lack of charity, perhaps I will. Have charity!
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Neither shalt thou bring an abomination into thine house,
lest thou be a cursed thing like it:
but thou shalt utterly detest it,
and thou shalt utterly abhor it;
for it is a cursed thing.