False allegations from a Moslem blasphemer.
Slave of Moon-god at blogsite “islamgreatreligion.wordpress.com” – makes the ridiculous claim that Jesus Christ is never identified in the Holy Bible as God manifest in the flesh.
To support his false allegation the Mohamedian heretic makes the following points:
- Jesus Christ was a servant. Matthew 12:18, Matthew 20:28
- Jesus Christ’s Father was greater than him. John 5:30; John 14:28, John 13:16
- Jesus Christ prayed to his Father. Mark 1:35, John 17:11, Luke 5:16, Luke 10:21, Matthew 26:39, Luke 22:44
- Jesus Christ said only his Father knew timing. Mark 13:32
- God said he is not a man, yet Christ was. Numbers 23:19, Isaiah 47:3, Acts 2:22
- The “son of man” is a prophet’s title. Ezekiel, Matthew 13:57, John 6:14
- God cannot be seen. Exodus 33:20, John 1:18, John 6:46, Colossians 1:15, 1 Timothy 1:17
- Jesus’s Father is called “God” John 20:17, 1 Peter 1:3, Luke 10:21, John 17:3, John 7:16
- Jesus was the messiah. Luke 9:20, John 4:25-26
The deceived Koranist then parrots Islamic position from his Al-Koran (surah 5:75) that says Jesus Christ, “…is no more than a messenger like the messengers before him” etc.
Response:
Moslems are thick-headed – rational logic escapes them. This Mohammedan nutcase decided that Jesus Christ was only a mere man by simply ignoring all verses in the Bible that said otherwise. Is Jesus Christ only a man? It would be very easy to “prove” by simply denying the existence of contrary information!
This Moslem ignoramus can next “prove” that a dog is a cat by his logic. The dog has four legs, fur, a tail, a mouth, nose, eyes, and ears … so it is a cat, for a cat has all these things. Right? No, you stupid Moslem, the dog is not a cat – they are not the same no matter how many similarities you list in your blind folly.
The Moslem lists all the ways that Jesus Christ was just a man. True enough that he was a man, but he was the God-man so you have proved nothing to show he is only a man – we know already he was a man. That is not even in doubt – every Christian who ever read the Bible knows that Jesus Christ was a man. But is he only a man? No. He was God manifest in the flesh.
Koran Deception.
The Moslem can’t think logically about this question because he has been yelled at and intimidated by the contents of his Al-koran. Around 632 AD a crazed Arab warlord died – for about 20 years he had been reciting the feverish visions in his head – stories that a 600 winged angel told him during epileptic fits. Although nobody else ever saw this alleged angel, Mohamed used his angel’s stories as the basis to alter the historical eye-witness testimony that had already been recorded in the Holy Bible by Jewish apostles 600 years beforehand. Mohamet gave no supernatural signs to prove he was sent by God – he simply claimed that his angel-visions were their own proof and if anyone did not believe in him that person was to be killed as an unbeliever.
The brainwashed Moslem therefore reads the Koran just like putting a jack-hammer to his head and drilling away until his brains fall out hearing over and over again, “Allah begat no son! Allah has no parters! Allah begat no son! Allah will burn you in hell! Allah begat no son! Allah is angry! Allah has no partners! Allah is angry you mocked Mohamed! Allah has no son!” etc etc etc!! This summarizes the entire Koran.
Therefore whenever reading what the Bible says, the Koranic fanatic begins his inquiry with a fundamental disability – he has already decided to reject objective evidence and adopt instead Mohamed’s incredibly ghost stories as his standard of truth! Such a deluded fool cannot hope to achieve a proper understanding – he has lost his reasoning ability. Rational thinking does not begin by assuming a false equivalence between the Koran’s psychotic ravings of one man’s mental fantasies – and the Holy Bible’s historic evidentiary reporting of real events seen and heard by hundreds of actual eye-witnesses.
So the question is not whether or not Jesus Christ a man, of course he was a man! Hundreds of verses say so. But the question we must answer, is whether or not he is the God-Man.
Did God begat his Son, Jesus Christ in the flesh?
The Bible says yes, indeed he did: “For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?” Hebrews 1:5.
The Apostle Thomas fell at the feet of Jesus Christ and worshipped him: “And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.”
According to the eyewitness testimony of the people who saw it happen, the risen saviour Jesus Christ stood still and allowed a man to bow before him in worship him and calling him his Lord and his God, and Jesus accepted the worship without telling him to get up or stop.
Now either Jesus Christ committed a terrible sin, or else he was God. Was Jesus Christ an evil man who turned himself into an idol – or was he God manifest in the flesh?
Koran Stops Moslem’s brain here.
At this point the poor deceived Moslem rejects the evidence. He simply reverts back to his book of imaginary angel-sayings. Didn’t the 600 winged angel tell Mohamet that the Bible was corrupt? So the naïve religious fanatic simply rejects the Apostle John’s eye-witness testimony of the very events he saw occur in real-time – and the Moslem reverts back to imaginary ghost stories that were uttered 600 years after the fact by a crazy epileptic Arab who never saw anything happen in Jerusalem in 30 AD.
This is the core problem dealing with deceived Moslem – you simply can’t get past the barrier of concrete irrationality he has built up in his mind against the Bible. Presenting evidence, logic, and reasoning is useless – his mental prejudice and bigotry is too thick. The strident religious teachings from his book of imaginary angel sayings has closed his mind to all common sense.
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Jesus Christ is God and Man.
Since Jesus Christ is a man, the list that the Moslem provided is not a surprising one.
- Jesus Christ was a servant. It is true that Jesus Christ humbled himself to be a servant while he was a man for humility must always proceed greatness. However, when Jesus returns he will reign as King of Kings and Lord of Lords and all creation shall serve and obey him. “And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him: And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.” Revelation 22:3.
- Jesus Christ’s Father was greater than him. It is true that Jesus Christ lived life as a perfect man, including submission to his Father – this shows God’s perfection as Deity, for even God is whole and complete, able to submit himself to himself. “Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered; And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;” Hebrews 5:8.
- Jesus Christ prayed to his Father. Of course he prayed to his Father because he took on the role of a man living as a man upon this earth to be just like us. Nevertheless, he was sinless so he prayed in perfect fellowship with his Father, unlike us. “And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me. And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me.” John 11:41.
- Jesus Christ said only his Father knew timing. The timing of Christ’s kingdom depended upon the free-will of the Jewish people to accept him or reject him, therefore it was not proper for Jesus Christ to say what the timing was – for the free choice of the Jewish People had to be made. Only the Father, who resided outside of physical time, could say for certain if the Jews would accept Christ or not. If Jesus said that his kingdom would be 2,000 years later – then he would have been removing the Jews’ obligation to accept him immediately. This is the reason why Jesus said during the time he was on earth as a physical man that the exact timing of his return belonged only to the Father.
- God said he is not a man, yet Christ was. When God said he was not a man it was true because in Numbers 23:19 it was 1400 years before the incarnation of Jesus Christ. Also, Isaiah 47:3 was 700 years before the incarnation of Jesus Christ. But God did become a man as he said he would: “And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him. For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloak.” Isaiah 59:16-17. “The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.” Psalm 110:1. “Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the LORD, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.” Malachi 3:1.
- The “son of man” is a prophet’s title. Jesus was the son of King David by the flesh, for his body was created from Mary, his descendant, according to the prophecy that the Messiah would be born of the seed of a woman (virgin). “Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me,” Psalm 40:7. “And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.” Genesis 3:15. “Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. … for God is with us.” Isaiah 7:14, Isaiah 8:10.
- God cannot be seen. The Godhead obviously has different “parts” in a way that we can only understand because a man was made in God’s image: “And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness…” Genesis 1:26. The man therefore also has three parts like God does: body, soul, and spirit. It is true that no one can see the “soul” of the Godhead, which is the Father – yet we see the “body” which is the Son – and a man can be inspired by the Spirit of God in his spirit. The man Christ Jesus saw his Father and he declared him to us: “No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.” John 1:18. “Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.” John 6:46. “Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?” John 14:9. “Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.” 1 John 2:23.
- Jesus’ Father is called “God” This is true, but God endeavoured to save mankind from sin, therefore God himself manifested himself to men in the person of Jesus Christ. “For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him. For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.” John 5:22-23,26-27.
- Jesus was the messiah. God appointed himself mediator between God and man – for otherwise man could not be saved. Job was in misery in ancient times, knowing that man suffers in ways that God would not understand: “Neither is there any daysman [Mediator] betwixt us, that might lay his hand upon us both.” Job 9:33. “O that one might plead for a man with God, as a man pleadeth for his neighbour!” Job 16:21. Therefore God became the mediator that man needs for salvation: “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;” 1 Timothy 2:5. “And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.” Hebrews 9:15.
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Who Created the Universe?
God manifested himself in flesh in the incarnation of Jesus, but he had always beforehand existed forever as the triune Godhead. God’s eternal words are the “interface” between himself and his creation. He spake creation into existence, “And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.” Genesis 1:3.
The fist verse of the Bible declares, “In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.” Genesis 1:1. He created them by his word, for it says, “Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens. Let them praise the name of the LORD: for he commanded, and they were created.” Psalm 184:4-5.
Jesus Christ is called the Word of God for he is the manifestation of God to the created world. “And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.” Revelation 19:13. “God was manifest in the flesh” 1 Timothy 3:16.
And, of course, he created the world by the word: “God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:” Hebrews 1:1-3.
All attempts to understand this run into difficulties because this is God explaining his divine nature to us his limited creatures – we find it hard to grasp. Analogy is that Jesus Christ is seen in the flesh how one sees gloves on a carpenter building a house, but he cannot see the naked hands inside the gloves. Jesus Christ is the eternal timeless hands of Almighty God – but he took on flesh and bones (visible glove) when he became man – by God begotten in human form – and so we saw him. Yet he was fully God and fully man.
God’s Blood.
“But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.” John 19:34
“This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.” 1 John 5:6.
“feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.” Acts 20:28.
Saint John puts it all together:
This passage explains it:
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. … He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. … And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. … No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.” John 1:1-3, 10-11, 18.
Thus God’s manifestation of himself is by Jesus Christ – it is himself creating the worlds by his words and speaking to his creation. You will never know God except by how God chooses to reveals himself by a tangible expression – except you know Jesus Christ, you do not know God. (1 Timothy 2:5).
The Bible says that in Jesus Christ: “For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.” Colossians 2:9.
The Bible says that Jesus Christ, “Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:” Philippians 2:6-7.
The Apostle John saw Jesus Christ in his glorified body after he rose again immortal: “And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength. And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.” Revelation 1:17-18.
Thus Jesus Christ is God Almighty for only God is first and last: “Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.” Isaiah 44:6.
There is only one God and he is Father, Son, and Holy Ghost – and these three are one.
The Moslem who follows his mad prophet denies that Jesus Christ is God manifest in the flesh – thus every faithful Moslem is a damned antichrist:
“And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.“1 John 4:3.
“For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.” 2 John 1:7.
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